Visit the area, maybe get your children involved in a sports club at the weekend there so you get to meet other parents who may have children at the schools and you can get first hand feedback. “Once you’re in they can’t kick you out,” she tells Kidspot. Who knows, I may win the lottery (but have to start doing it first) and be able to afford to send them to private school. This is based on the address we gave in the original village, so she is out of catchment anyway - by the county's choice not ours. A state school’s ability to accept students who live outside its catchment area depends on whether the school: 1. has capacity once all in-catchment enrolments are met 2. needs to allow for students relocating into their catchment area during the year 3. can ensure an even spread of students … We moved last year from Cheltenham to Gloucester (dd was in year 8 then) and we were under no obligation to move.I have tried to get her a place in a school in Gloucester, however the schools which are any good have a waiting list of >40 for her year group, and the ones which do have spaces are terrible schools. My daughter is currently going to public school and we are moving in three weeks out of the public school district. You can still apply for enrolment at a state school outside of your catchment area, but enrolment is not guaranteed and you will be placed on a waiting list. You only have the information that you have now, hindsight is an incredible thing but you are looking at a period of what, 7 years of both your children going through a secondary and yet you have the rest of the primary years, plus all the years that come after that. I’ve been doing A lot of research over last couple of days and it seems moving would actually put us in a better position. So the catchment school for the new home may be full. Schools are well aware of parents who try stunts like this to get into a 'good' school - and are on their guard against it. There is another school closer to the house for which we don’t fall into the priority area that has an outstanding ofsted rating. We have applied to all the schools within the catchment area. You pays yer money, etc. I would move wherever you want to now, because who knows what could happen. HiQuick question - just that really. We kept the children in their original primary school.5 years is a long time in the life of a school, but they are home more than they are in school so we looked at it from a family point of view. My daughter is a secondary school student. No -but you might not get a younger child in. The school would be well within it's rights to withdraw the place they have offered your child if you move out of the catchment area even once they have started school. That's been my experience in NSW (although this would've been ~6 years ago :P). Can they tell us to moce schools? I had planned on keeping her in the same school, but using my mothers address so that the school wouldn't find out. Who knows?! My children got into the outstanding secondary, but even those children who went into the feeder secondary did very well.School isn't just about teachers, but pastoral care, discipline, standards and a supportive home life. This is page 1 of 1 (This thread has 12 messages.). So in terms of how old you are and if you will stay in the property after retirement, 7 years is nothing. Missing out on your first choice of school – or, in the worst-case scenario, not securing a place at any of your top three – can be a … also a school that is excellent for one child is not a good fit for another, and you need to get to know a lot more about your child's learning style over the next few years. The Following User Says Thank You to BH-KatiesMum For This Useful Post: Mod-Degrassi (08-11-2017) 08-11-2017 18:40 #7. We want to rent in the local village, get dd in the local school there and then buy in or around the village. but in Qld, once your child is in the school, it doesn't matter if you subsequently move out of the catchment area. However, this amount could shrink even further over the coming years as it’s been announced that outstanding schools are to face inspections again, following the scrapping of an exemption introduced in 2012. We live in the Surrey area. She has missed more than two weeks of school at this stage. You won't be- though in my opinion, there should be 'cut off' points: ie a DC in say reception whose parents move should have to vacate their place IF there is a waiting list at the end of Y2, or Y6, and perhaps Y9?- whichever is the next 'point' along.It would stop that iniquitous practice of 'renting in' especially fraudulently (the six month rented one bedroom flat IN catchment you leave vacant whilst YOU live in 5 bedroomed luxury elsewhere- in a house you couldn't or would choose not to afford IN catchment).I am always 'amused' by London folk, in particular, who buy 'big' in a given, less desirable area, then once the DCs reach school age, lament loud and long, their song of entitlement, demanding that space be made available to their DCs in the more desirable, possibly more expensive borough's schools next door.There is also the issue of (tax payer subsidised) private school places: the idea that if a fee paying parent suddenly gets into financial difficulty, it should be UNTHINKABLE that the private school advantage be withdrawn from their DC!- and perhaps passed to an 'outsider' who would never had gotten a full fee place in the first place. Well, this is our situation - I'm not cheating the systemWe live in Singapore, relocating back to the UK. But her lease was up and she needed to move out. you need to start going to open days even your eldest is in y4 - that will give you time to move areas if you need to (need to be in the right area by autumn of y6). Peter Downes, head of Hinchingbroke School in Huntingdon, said parents would claim that they were in the middle of buying a house in the catchment area. Yes they had to travel a bit but I only work school hours and from home so this wouldn’t be a problem I too am a control freak and I guess this is why it has bothered me so much. A catchment area is a geographical area that will determine if your child can attend a certain school, based on their permanent residence and how far away it is from the school. Talk widget showing discussions of the day & trending threads, Subscribe to Mumsnet emails direct to your inbox. No, I haven't suggested you're cheating the system at all! “Once you’re in they can’t kick you out" So she ended up at a new home, again outside of the school’s catchment. This means only families residing within the catchment area may send their children to our school. Just worried she will be chucked out and we are due to put our sons name down for school for sept 2012 and a bit worried he won't get in. It's a primary anyway, so goes up to year 11. We needed a much bigger house and could not afford one in the area we were in. To comment on this thread you need to create a Mumsnet account. While she fudged it for a short time, after a couple of months she told the school of her new address. Moving out of school district & want to keep child in same school. School Catchment Areas and Distance Criteria Explained. Thats insane - sorry. She is in Year 1.Thanks for your help. School 'catchment area' rules to tighten. Schools cannot reserve places, even for people moving into their catchment area. they do change over time. Are you hopelessly confused now?IMO you should be fine, once you have a firm offer from the school and definitely once your DD has taken up the place. the y6 open days only happen a couple of weeks before the application deadline so you can't wait till then!the schools ratings tell you nothing. The admissions arrangement must clearly define how this will be measured, how the home address will be determined and what happens if a child shares their time during the school week at another address. go again in y5 to see if things are getting better or worse. Unlike you we aren't going far and it wouldn't be a disaster if we had to stick with our current catchment school, except if we change our address after the deadline then I'm worried the LA will cancel our original application and we won't get a place anywhere near by, not even in what would have been our catchment school. The house is on the border of 2 counties and when speaking to people in a local forum all went to very good schools across the county I would prefer my kids to go to. I think I'm right in thinking that we cannot be made to move schools, but is that correct?We are moving back to the UK and have been given a place at a great school on the basis that we rent in the area we have told them we will. However, you may have to apply direct to the school if it’s a free school, academy, voluntary-aided or voluntary-controlled school. A school’s catchment area must be measured in a reasonable and clearly defined way. Local families who care about education do not send their kids there - the majority are divided between faith schools, academies with a city-wide intake for special subjects, and undersubscribed schools in the neighbouring LA area where there are direct bus routes. If you require a call-out, they can get to you reasonably quickly - and they can get to other patients in their catchment area from your home just as quickly. If I move out of the school catchment area will my daughter get chucked out of school?! Not if child is reception upwards, if they have a place for nursery a reception place isn't guaranteed for anyone. If you move out of area, please notify the office. From my experience, no you won't be required to move your DD if you are offered a placed based on the details you supply at the time of application, (unless these are proved fraudulent in some way - not saying that this is the case BTW! initial round in y4. The village has no place available in school, so they have given her a place in another village's school, which is still very good, and we are happy with. that doesn't make it an actually acceptable school. you can't possibly make sensible decisions about schools this far in advance. School shopping in Sydney will become harder due to a major crackdown on out-of-area enrolments by the NSW Department of Education. **Data Notes:** * NSW public schools have defined local enrolment areas, meaning that every child is entitled to enrol in a particular school based on his or her residential address. There’s more information on how catchments work in our guide to how catchment areas work. We moved for a secondary school and edged our bets as our children were similar ages to yours. Your child may complete the school year at Balmy but you … They don’t have school place for her. They will not make you move. It keeps the school community 'local' and allows a person who buys in the area to also be getting a local school place, not be kept out by someone who lives MILES away. What Happens If You Move? To use this feature subscribe to Mumsnet Premium - get first access to new features see fewer ads, and support Mumsnet. We decided to stay at school B anyway, because it suited us very nicely, and school B has never queried this. This determined the catchment area for the school in that year. We'll then buy a house but it may be out of catchment. It would allow them to stay in their current school as drop off and pick up times would drastically change, however it takes us out of the secondary school catchment. The catchment area is likely to change each year based on the number of applications per year. According to the Department for Education, there are currently 3,700 schools and colleges rated as outstanding. To use this feature subscribe to Mumsnet Premium - get first access to new features see fewer ads, and support Mumsnet. And find out how far your house or another property is from nearby schools. The law says my child has the rightful education and the local council has to … There are a scattering of villages and you've got to buy where comes available and is suitable.I just need to know, for her sake, they wouldn't make her move if we were out of catchment. Has anyone successfully enrol their kids into a primary school which is out of the school catchment area? From the section Choosing a school: You may also apply to enrol at a school other than your local school … we have no regrets but we moved her mid year admission out catchemnt in year 2 much harder get reception place. So the primary school fed into a "good" secondary, but our closest school was "outstanding." yes it is doing an amazing job tackling the endemic crime and drug use among the intake and is making amazing progress getting a fair proportion of kids who arrive barely literate or numerate to improve their skills better than expected. I currently have a 4 and 6 year old in a good secondary school. DS started at School B, we then moved to renovated house and were offered a place at School A off the waiting list. You can still apply to the school, but until you have exchanged contracts or have a signed tenancy agreement, the school cannot use your new address to determine your catchment area. We have recently put our house on the market and found one we really like the look of. Neighbour reporting me to the council for anti social behaviour, Toilet training expert answers questions on bathroom habits and routines, Share your tips for saving on your energy bill with ESB Energy, Talk widget showing discussions of the day & trending threads, Subscribe to Mumsnet emails direct to your inbox. We moved specifically for school (before primary) but i had visited all the possible secondary schools before we moved as well as the primaries and picked a house that would pretty much guarantee entry for Plan A or Plan B. I actually dont think secondary schools change that much - the biggest factor in my view is the demographic mix of the catchment area and that is very unlikely to change over a handful of years.If you like the house so much, visit the schools (the outstanding one and the OK ish one). Neighbour reporting me to the council for anti social behaviour, Toilet training expert answers questions on bathroom habits and routines, Share your tips for saving on your energy bill with ESB Energy. Schools could be allowed to select their pupils on academic or some other merit. This site aims to record, as far as is practical, the effective catchment area for every school for every year of admission. This document contains the most frequently asked questions about enrolments and school zones for Victorian government schools including specialist schools. we cant get younger siblings in due to being out catchment so thats been a pain so check with la if have younger siblings. You'll have to accept your GPs decision. we have a catchment comp that is "good with outstanding features" but I wouldn't send a child there. get moving on sorting out house move then. I’ve checked the priority area school for which we are looking at moving into and it’s ofsted rating is good. most pupils only take foundation maths or functional skills rather than full GCSE. It's all about timing when there's a medical urgency. This is page 1 of 1 (This thread has 7 messages.). Every public school reserves enough places within their school for students in their local enrolment area. In 2018, 91% of primary school children were offered a space at their preferred school, while just 82% of secondary pupils were allocated their chosen school. A school that parents might not actually kill to get their children into, but would, or in our case did, move a few hundred yards to camp out in Withnailian squalor, in order to be accepted. Catchment areas. It can be done, assuming you're in WA have a look here. It keeps the school community 'local' and allows a person who buys in the area to also be getting a local school place, not be kept out by someone who lives MILES away.You pays yer money, etc. They are very settled and we would never really want to move them from this school. The main reason we are moving is that our house is so overlooked by a new build estate but the house we want would mean our children could play out without everybody who walks past able to see them (paths on new build are 2ft higher than our house which is a 1930 semi) We’ve got a second viewing tomorrow and I think if we like it we’ll go for it as there are plenty of secondary school options. eldest goes to out of catchment school we love it. to demand that MIL pay for my private medical treatment? The unknown tends to give me anxiety but even living where we are we are not guaranteed the school we would want in 5 years time as 100 more houses are being built up the road (part of the reason we are moving). my daughter goes to a really nice school but we are moving house in a few weeks, under 2 mins in the car to be precise and its outside the catchment area. Because we didn't actually live in the village at the time of application we didn't get a place, but got one at another village school (school B) 4 miles away. GPs have a catchment area for a good reason. No, I would never move to a house where i didnt know anything about the catchment school. My question is this, would you move out of an area which has an okish secondary school to an area that could possibly get your kid into an outstanding school but if not would again be in an okish school which you currently know nothing about.Secondary school is still 5 years away for my eldest and I’m wondering how much I should consider secondary schools at this point. OK, in the state sector, I KNOW it's 'selection by catchment'- but if indeed we have that system, let's enforce it. I know some schools you have to inform them of your new address when you move your child may loose her place if shes out of the catchment area for the school. I can't speak for NSW (so my answer may therefore be useless!) Hi My son will be starting school Sept 2014 so ill be applying for schools next year. - School is at full capacity and strictly will not accept students outside of the school catchment zone ... even if you move out of the area. There is another school closer to the house for which we don’t fall into the priority area that has an outstanding ofsted rating. There are many who ARE but that's because they can! If there are too many children located in the area close to the school the school could adopt a lottery sy… Look at the results. You’ll have to provide information that confirms you’re living in the school’s catchment area: usually two pieces of documentation showing your full address. There are just so many families around me moving now with young children to areas where the school is outstanding that I feel so much pressure and anxiety about making the right decision for the kids future. In 2019, the number of places going to siblings went up by over 50% to 30: half the places the school had to offer. They Cheltenham school she attends at the moment is very good so I have absolutely no intention of moving her, even if it is 14 miles away. Balmy Beach is a closed school. As a poster before, OFSTED is one (minor) piece of the jigsaw. Queensland's Education Department has directed hundreds of state schools to severely limit the enrolment of students from outside their catchments as more and more parents try and secure their children placements in the best schools - … If your preferred school is oversubscribed, it is unlikely that a place will be offered if all the available places are filled by applicants that live in the catchment area. We were renting out of catchment for this school too. Most big cities in Australia use "catchment areas" for assigning students to public schools, meaning you're (generally) stuck in that area. We are in a large 4 bed house which we will downsize within 12 years as Ds2 is 14. Applications are processed and assessed in the order they are received. Our house we buy may be in the original village, around it, or somewhere nearer the placed school. This is likely to increase competition among parents in the coming years. Juniper this is my husbands point of view and my dads in fact. That sense of entitlement, again.OK, in the state sector, I KNOW it's 'selection by catchment'- but if indeed we have that system, let's enforce it. First time poster here desperate for a parents perspective on school catchments when moving house. Also because we both really do love this house and I can really see us growing old in it (it’s in a lovely village) am I being selfish in thinking it’s only a secondary school, it’s not the be all and end all of their life! Government schools are separated into zones (or districts) and many require students to live in the local catchment area in order to be granted a place. The last pupil offered one of 30 or so places remaining lived 0.25 miles from the school: a catchment area less than a quarter the size of the one the year before. I'm returning to work this sept after having baby no. were my ds,s go there in year 7 and 10 if we move out of the catchment area they will loose there place. To comment on this thread you need to create a Mumsnet account. I'm really dreading what school he's going to get into as the closest one too us is known as the 'worst' school in the area we moved here last year and it didn't become known to us until he started pre school. ).In our case we had a house we were renovating in a village with a heavily oversubscribed school (school A). we went to the open day and the head teacher spent most of the time talking about how effective their new behaviour management policy is. 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